The Sigma fp arrives! THIS is DIFFERENT but I LOVE IT!
By Steve Huff
UPDATE! MY ROLLING REVIEW HAS STARTED – SEE IT HERE!
Sigmas video on the fp
To be honest, I was not going to review or even try this camera, and I was not sure why exactly. It looked cool…small, brick like, simple controls, and made for photos and mostly cinema (video) use. But I sort of forgot about. Then one night I was chatting with an old friend who acquired one, and he loved it. He adored it. FOR PHOTO USE. He told me all of the pros of the camera for his likes and mine (we have similar tastes) and he got me excited to give it a go. This was just a couple of days ago!
Voigtlander 50 1.2 M mount on the fp…click it for larger
I ended up renting one from LensRemtals.com and had it shipped with the 45 f/2.8 from Sigma and the Viewfinder and the small grip.
The camera has no built in EVF, but the VF that they sell for it is a beast and attaches to the back. It uses the LCD as the VF! This means the image you see when looking through is HUGE, bright, clear and almost surreal.
I’ve only had this for half a day so my only shots are test shots..this means my dogs, and other silly stuff for now ; ) Click for larger but this was shot with the fp and the 50 1.2 from Voigtlander, wide open at f1.2
It impressed me right from the get go and I will tell you why.
- This is an amazing way to shoot Leica M mount lenses. With or without the Viewfinder attachment it is a joy to use. The VF makes it even better IMO but if you want small size, just remove the VF. With a Leica M to TL adapter you can use any M lens on the camera. The image above has the Voigtlander 35 f/2 lens attached. Now I have only shot with a trio of Voigtlander M lenses so far. The 35, 50 and 75mm and so far so good.
- The build is extraordinary. It’s Leica Like but with the typical oddball Sigma design (which is great in this case).
- The controls are simple, basic and the menus are super easy to delve into and again, very simple.
- The color modes are quite nice, even the new Teal & Orange mode that is used in many cinema projects. It looks great for stills as well.
- Holding and shooting this with the grip and VF gives me a retro kind of vibe. It feels like you are shooting an old film camera. Manual focus is a sinch due to the massive size of what you see when looking through the VF.
- It has a dedicated switch up top for stills and cine modes. Easy to swap between video and stills mode.
- The IQ and color is looking good. RAW files are nice.
- High ISO appears to beat my Sony A7III at 12800.
- It can be stripped down to just the body and a lens, and with the AF Sigma 45 2.8 it’s quite small yet beautiful IQ.
- It just feels nice to shoot. It’s different, unique and if you enjoy shooting manual M lenses, this cold be an alternative to an original SL and save you thousands.
- ISO range from ISO 6 to 102,500. Yes, I said SIX ; )
ISO 12,800, no noise reduction, from RAW – click it for larger. I will be testing this in very low light this weekend so will see how it holds up.
The cons that I have noticed in my first day?
- The AF is on the slow side of the fence. With the 45 2.8 it’s fast enough for everyday photos, portraits, street, family but in no way will this camera be for sports or fast action. It’s not what it is about. But do not expect Sony level AF here. It has. face and eye detect but it is slow compared to the faster cameras available today. With the 45 it is a small setup but quite powerful (without the VF). The AF is contrast detect ONLY and it needs some contrast to lock on.
- It’s different. With the VF and grip it looks like no other camera made today. This could be a pro to some and a con to others. It’s a pro for me, as I love different.
- NO 5 Axis IS here, just EIS which is in no way as effective as a good 5 Axis system (and it does not seem to be able to be turned on when using M lenses). I feel it could have bene better with some sort of 5 Axis IS inside, though it would have made it larger.
- Doesn’t have fluff. No built in EVF, No swivel LCD, No blazing speed, no gimmicks. This could be a con or a pro depending on your likes.
- Battery life is reportedly not the best, so could use two batteries.
The fp with the painterly Voigtlander 75 1.5 M mount (review here)
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The fp with the Sigma 45 2.8
To me this feels like a cross between shooting medium format (the design with the VF) and an old movie camera. For video it’s fantastic but I do wish it had 5 Axis IS. That would have made it perfect for me. As it is, I am enjoying it but have only had this for a half a day. Hardly time to really learn it and see what it can and can’t do.
I feel this one may fall through the cracks as it’s not getting a ton of attention. But it “spoke to me” right out of the gate so I am looking forward to using it, testing it and sharing my thoughts with all of you. I can say that most who love todays modern cameras that are packed with all kinds of features and speed, this may not be to your liking. But if you love the slow pace style of shooting, love shooting manual or want a nice little L mount camera as a back up to your Leica SL or Panasonic S1, this is worth a look. Stay tuned for a review, written and video. Have a great weekend everyone!
B&H Photo take a look at the fp… (I will have my video next week)
B&H Photo has the fp in stock HERE.
Steve
Hello Steve. Thank you for this new review.
One question : is the optical viewfinder the same as the Quattro series?
I have the Quattro DP1/2 and 3 and the output is totally on par with my former S007 (under controlled lighting and low ISO) for a ridiculous fraction of the price.
The Sigmas are the most underrated cameras (at low ISO).
It’s a different viewfinder from the one they offer for the Quattro series. This camera is exceptional at High ISO or low ISO, up there with the best there is in these areas. Thank you.
Thank you for your answer.
I might try it for personal work.
I played with one today at a show in Toronto. That viewfinder all though big, is AMAZING!! Best viewfinder I’ve ever used. If it was tiltable id seriously consider one
Sigma love from Stevie
I knew it would happen one day.
I think the cine features are pretty interesting I am picking one up today. I like that it can be used as a directors viewfinder and has a number of cine camera emulations (ARRI, RED, SONY) built in. I don’t know Sigma cameras, but I know Leica, and Lumix, so this seems like an interesting addition. I can see it going in a bag with an M10, if you want to do cinematic video and stay small. with the LARGE RAW DNG for video I see it as a B cam for SHORT footage on a Gimble or attached to the inside of a scene and not moving – because of the lack of IBIS it doesn’t seem totally usable for handheld. I can see it being the “cine” addition to my SL1 until the SL2 ships later this month – and the long long wait that we may have before actually getting out hands on one. If you have an SL or S1, S1R or S1H body I can see this as a welcome addition to your camera bag for some things. Especially, for cinematographers. It has ARRI mount connectors for cages and attaching to various applications where a cinematographer would need something like this – so, it makes sense who this is marketed for. I’m very interested.
I’ve been looking everywhere for someone to review or even look at the sigma FP seems like everyone is just writing it off?
For a slow, throw a camera in the coat pocket, walk around experience do you prefer this one to the sony rxr2? Been looking at both but curious if you have a preference. Thanks for the reviews.
I prefer the fp over the RX1. It feels better, is more basic in controls, and if you do mot mind the size, the viewfinder is EPIC. Best VF experience I have seen in all my life. Just adds some size, makes it like an old school movie camera. But I shot this last night and the IQ blew my mind. For me, it’s a photo camera first, then video. I feel the video is nice but without any good stabilization it’s sort of a miss for me in that dept. If you are a cinemotographer and using a cage and all of that, doesn’t matter if a camera is small or large. The AF is slow with video, unusable slow and not reliable. So I see it as a still camera first, then video ; ) I will have new info up this week. Thank you!
Steve,
I love that you are reviewing this camera! I’ve had mine for about 2 weeks and agree that it is awesome with M-mount lenses (I will have to try the VF attachment). It reminds me of a Leica M for cinematography with its compact size, sparse controls, build quality and ability to pair with the M lenses (size and quality-wise). I’ve found AF for video to be awful and there are lots of improvements that could come in future firmware updates (ability to remap the buttons, 4K60, log, etc). Really looking forward to your review.
The VF is stunning. Large, makes it long, but worth it for me. Highly recommend the VF.
Hey Steve. Was looking forward to your review on this one. Thanks! How do you think it compares with the Sony RX R2 as a carry around shooter?
Might be good for astrophotography. Looking forward to your low light results.
How does electronic shutter work vs a mechanical one for still photos? I know there is no shutter shock, but what disadvantages does it have? I have a few Canon EF and M lenses and a sony a7rii and might get this as a small companion camera to replace my sony a5100 (apsc)
Having no shutter, there is the possibility of rolling shutter but from my tests so far this will not be a problem as I haven’t seen it. It’s silent as well of course. Ill have more info this week, thank you!
The fp immediately drew my attention, but the huge L-Mount lenses seem somehow disproportionate. Hence, my first thought is, since the camera begs to be used with M-Mount lenses, how does it work with that lenses, compared to Nikon Z or the Canon R?
Ill have more info on this coming up in a few days. Still testing, thank you!
Steve I am so glad you’ve sampled and shared observations w this camera
I’ve been so curious about it since it was announced. I have wondered if this might be one of those fabulous compliment to my gear. It definitely would not be an only camera option for me, but it could be a MARVELOUS compliment to my gear.
And I’ll admit – the gadget-appeal of it is strong